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		By: Marty A		</title>
		<link>https://writersontherange.org/the-keystone-pipeline-wont-make-gas-any-cheaper/#comment-130</link>

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		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Sep 2022 12:25:17 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://writersontherange.org/the-keystone-pipeline-wont-make-gas-any-cheaper/#comment-129&quot;&gt;Marty A&lt;/a&gt;.

...adding to my comment above.  A very interesting thing to explore is the effect on large scale water systems from new Electric Vehicles, and solar and wind farms.  Remember - I&#039;m basically an environmentalist - but if you examine the amount of water used to make and recycle millions of tons of solar/wind e-waste, you might be surprised.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://writersontherange.org/the-keystone-pipeline-wont-make-gas-any-cheaper/#comment-129">Marty A</a>.</p>
<p>&#8230;adding to my comment above.  A very interesting thing to explore is the effect on large scale water systems from new Electric Vehicles, and solar and wind farms.  Remember &#8211; I&#8217;m basically an environmentalist &#8211; but if you examine the amount of water used to make and recycle millions of tons of solar/wind e-waste, you might be surprised.</p>
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		By: Marty A		</title>
		<link>https://writersontherange.org/the-keystone-pipeline-wont-make-gas-any-cheaper/#comment-129</link>

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		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Sep 2022 12:15:26 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Just found this website.  Extremely interesting. My work involves mapping out large complex networks, with small teams of collaborators, on the ground worldwide. Started doing this when I worked on US environmental regulations like the Corporate Average Fuel Economy (CAFE) regulations.  Later expanded to many other networks- like traveling the world with bag of mobile devices tracking expansion of global internet and how that changed global dynamics forever.
So what?  I grew up in US Western deserts, and our group has been traveling US water systems for years, documenting the processes and technologies mentioned here.I think the most important book that helps describe the &quot;political DNA&quot; of US water management is still &quot;Cadillac Desert&quot;. And the most important foundational theme in that book is this.  If you dam up free-flowing rivers, the water in them evaporates much faster, because the surface of water expands far beyond historic river banks.. So most of the current &quot;adjustments&quot; to the large rivers are like angels dancing on the heads of pins - because the root cause of water loss is still presenting a larger surface of water- behind dams and in irrigation ditches - to the evaporative atmosphere of Earth.
There are very few ways to correct this, except to radically reduce the pull on the water system from several hundred million people.  I have no idea how to do this, because for decades savvy engineers who have developed water conservation systems, have been defeated by wealthy housing/industry developers, and the politicians who receive their &quot;contributions&quot; that allow more growth of the evaporative systems described here.. I would suggest that people research the &quot;less developed&quot; cultures of the world to see how they manage to support billions of people without fancy &quot;water conserving&quot; washing machines, &quot;water recycling&quot; car washes - and the production of billions of tons of fruits and vegetables - about 20-30% of whose volume is trashed, not eaten.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just found this website.  Extremely interesting. My work involves mapping out large complex networks, with small teams of collaborators, on the ground worldwide. Started doing this when I worked on US environmental regulations like the Corporate Average Fuel Economy (CAFE) regulations.  Later expanded to many other networks- like traveling the world with bag of mobile devices tracking expansion of global internet and how that changed global dynamics forever.<br />
So what?  I grew up in US Western deserts, and our group has been traveling US water systems for years, documenting the processes and technologies mentioned here.I think the most important book that helps describe the &#8220;political DNA&#8221; of US water management is still &#8220;Cadillac Desert&#8221;. And the most important foundational theme in that book is this.  If you dam up free-flowing rivers, the water in them evaporates much faster, because the surface of water expands far beyond historic river banks.. So most of the current &#8220;adjustments&#8221; to the large rivers are like angels dancing on the heads of pins &#8211; because the root cause of water loss is still presenting a larger surface of water- behind dams and in irrigation ditches &#8211; to the evaporative atmosphere of Earth.<br />
There are very few ways to correct this, except to radically reduce the pull on the water system from several hundred million people.  I have no idea how to do this, because for decades savvy engineers who have developed water conservation systems, have been defeated by wealthy housing/industry developers, and the politicians who receive their &#8220;contributions&#8221; that allow more growth of the evaporative systems described here.. I would suggest that people research the &#8220;less developed&#8221; cultures of the world to see how they manage to support billions of people without fancy &#8220;water conserving&#8221; washing machines, &#8220;water recycling&#8221; car washes &#8211; and the production of billions of tons of fruits and vegetables &#8211; about 20-30% of whose volume is trashed, not eaten.</p>
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		By: GigabitCH		</title>
		<link>https://writersontherange.org/the-keystone-pipeline-wont-make-gas-any-cheaper/#comment-114</link>

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		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Aug 2022 22:32:43 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Too bad they couldn&#039;t use it to pipe northern snow melt to the Colorado river]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Too bad they couldn&#8217;t use it to pipe northern snow melt to the Colorado river</p>
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		By: Jay Young		</title>
		<link>https://writersontherange.org/the-keystone-pipeline-wont-make-gas-any-cheaper/#comment-94</link>

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		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Jul 2022 03:23:14 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Good summation.
I would add that some of the political push for the XL comes from Saudi Arabia. The Motiva refinery complax in Port Arthur, Texas, is wholly owned by the Saudi royal family.and it was engineered to process heavy Venezuelan crude that cannot be imported at present.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good summation.<br />
I would add that some of the political push for the XL comes from Saudi Arabia. The Motiva refinery complax in Port Arthur, Texas, is wholly owned by the Saudi royal family.and it was engineered to process heavy Venezuelan crude that cannot be imported at present.</p>
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		By: John legrice		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Jul 2022 15:49:04 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Thank you for this great article. There are so much disinformation being put out. Keep up the great work and writing.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you for this great article. There are so much disinformation being put out. Keep up the great work and writing.</p>
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