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		By: Dave Marston		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Dave Marston]]></dc:creator>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://writersontherange.org/los-angeles-is-a-wakeup-call-for-the-west-especially-durango/#comment-944&quot;&gt;Wes Flynn&lt;/a&gt;.

I grew up in Paonia, Colorado. Delta County. My world was small, Paonia had 1,500 people, naturally I was curious about cities and majored in urban studies. I spent four years in Texas and found it a strange place. I missed mountains and public land.

Before that, I took a 6-week course in Field Ecology at the Teton Science School during Yellowstone&#039;s big fire year of 1988. &quot;Let it burn&quot; policies had just been adopted but were later rescinded. 

It was an opportunity missed. 

The cool fire that used to sweep the lower flanks of the San Juans clearing out ladder fuels between widely spaced Ponderose trees, inured to fire, is something experts try to mimic with controlled burns, goats and brute force remediation. 

Big picture, we&#039;re in a bind with overstocked fuels in our forests and yes, too much development in wildlands. 

As for writing, I think it takes curiosity to be a good journalist and a willingness to listen to experts and be diligent about facts. Research tirelessly and double check your sources before going to print.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://writersontherange.org/los-angeles-is-a-wakeup-call-for-the-west-especially-durango/#comment-944">Wes Flynn</a>.</p>
<p>I grew up in Paonia, Colorado. Delta County. My world was small, Paonia had 1,500 people, naturally I was curious about cities and majored in urban studies. I spent four years in Texas and found it a strange place. I missed mountains and public land.</p>
<p>Before that, I took a 6-week course in Field Ecology at the Teton Science School during Yellowstone&#8217;s big fire year of 1988. &#8220;Let it burn&#8221; policies had just been adopted but were later rescinded. </p>
<p>It was an opportunity missed. </p>
<p>The cool fire that used to sweep the lower flanks of the San Juans clearing out ladder fuels between widely spaced Ponderose trees, inured to fire, is something experts try to mimic with controlled burns, goats and brute force remediation. </p>
<p>Big picture, we&#8217;re in a bind with overstocked fuels in our forests and yes, too much development in wildlands. </p>
<p>As for writing, I think it takes curiosity to be a good journalist and a willingness to listen to experts and be diligent about facts. Research tirelessly and double check your sources before going to print.</p>
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		By: Wes Flynn		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Wes Flynn]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Feb 2025 18:29:47 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Dave, I see you&#039;re not from here -- looks like you may be from Texas. I can smell it in your writing. You clearly don&#039;t have a good grasp of the local environment here, and you seem to repeat the same garbage that those informed about these topics are actively working to &#039;extinguish.&#039; It&#039;s an alarming personality trait to move to a place, then get involved in writing about it and broadcasting your perception of the world from the smouldering tower of press and activism organizations. Honestly, there&#039;s so much wrong with this article, I can&#039;t dissect it fast enough. Your new home of Durango, CO, is a fire-dependent environment. It regularly goes through periods of intense drought, and there&#039;s now an immense amount of fuel on the ground due to extreme fire suppression for the last century or so. I realize you must be on some kind of Khalarawwdoe spirit journey by having recently moved there, but I must kindly ask you, on behalf of all people rooted here, to please stand down and write about your home area and what you&#039;re acculturated to and educated in instead. What is that -- Urban Studies? Texas? Your involvement in writing about the interior West is subversive intranational colonialism and you should stand down and make way for those educated in these topics to rise to the top. Stand down.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dave, I see you&#8217;re not from here &#8212; looks like you may be from Texas. I can smell it in your writing. You clearly don&#8217;t have a good grasp of the local environment here, and you seem to repeat the same garbage that those informed about these topics are actively working to &#8216;extinguish.&#8217; It&#8217;s an alarming personality trait to move to a place, then get involved in writing about it and broadcasting your perception of the world from the smouldering tower of press and activism organizations. Honestly, there&#8217;s so much wrong with this article, I can&#8217;t dissect it fast enough. Your new home of Durango, CO, is a fire-dependent environment. It regularly goes through periods of intense drought, and there&#8217;s now an immense amount of fuel on the ground due to extreme fire suppression for the last century or so. I realize you must be on some kind of Khalarawwdoe spirit journey by having recently moved there, but I must kindly ask you, on behalf of all people rooted here, to please stand down and write about your home area and what you&#8217;re acculturated to and educated in instead. What is that &#8212; Urban Studies? Texas? Your involvement in writing about the interior West is subversive intranational colonialism and you should stand down and make way for those educated in these topics to rise to the top. Stand down.</p>
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		By: Gary Riskin		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Jan 2025 14:35:47 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Thank you for the article. I would suggest 1 change though. The LA fires are not a wake up call. The wake up call happened in 1970 with the first Earth Day. This is the ship’s klaxon alerting that the ship is sinking, it is the tornado siren announcing your house is about to be destroyed, it is the Civil Defense siren warning of a nuclear attack. We are way beyond wake up call, this is now approaching desperation.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you for the article. I would suggest 1 change though. The LA fires are not a wake up call. The wake up call happened in 1970 with the first Earth Day. This is the ship’s klaxon alerting that the ship is sinking, it is the tornado siren announcing your house is about to be destroyed, it is the Civil Defense siren warning of a nuclear attack. We are way beyond wake up call, this is now approaching desperation.</p>
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		By: Dave Marston		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Dave Marston]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Jan 2025 18:07:25 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://writersontherange.org/los-angeles-is-a-wakeup-call-for-the-west-especially-durango/#comment-932&quot;&gt;benchmark_rick&lt;/a&gt;.

Thanks Rick,

I don&#039;t think the new reality of hotter dryer summers combined with poor snowpack situations like this year have sunk in. The La Plata County emergency management head person has a graveled turnaround that encircles her house. She slays away in summers to beat back trees and brush. If she&#039;s doing that, then homeowners need to do the same. The lazy person who expects a personal slurry bomber is in for a rude surprise in a conflagration. Fire crews will roll up, mark an X for hopeless, and move onto a defensible property.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://writersontherange.org/los-angeles-is-a-wakeup-call-for-the-west-especially-durango/#comment-932">benchmark_rick</a>.</p>
<p>Thanks Rick,</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t think the new reality of hotter dryer summers combined with poor snowpack situations like this year have sunk in. The La Plata County emergency management head person has a graveled turnaround that encircles her house. She slays away in summers to beat back trees and brush. If she&#8217;s doing that, then homeowners need to do the same. The lazy person who expects a personal slurry bomber is in for a rude surprise in a conflagration. Fire crews will roll up, mark an X for hopeless, and move onto a defensible property.</p>
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		By: benchmark_rick		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Jan 2025 05:05:48 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Thanks for this one Dave.  It&#039;s hard to please the &quot;expert commenters&quot;.  Having spent eighteen years in NPS and USFS wildland fire I feel your thoughts are valid.  The lack of water is an issue everywhere in the west yet the homeowner mitigation effort is lacking especially when I drive through towns like Evergreen.  I know for a fact that many homeowners received free mitigation during the 416 Fire by fire crews doing mitigation work they shouldn&#039;t have had to instead of actively fighting the fire.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for this one Dave.  It&#8217;s hard to please the &#8220;expert commenters&#8221;.  Having spent eighteen years in NPS and USFS wildland fire I feel your thoughts are valid.  The lack of water is an issue everywhere in the west yet the homeowner mitigation effort is lacking especially when I drive through towns like Evergreen.  I know for a fact that many homeowners received free mitigation during the 416 Fire by fire crews doing mitigation work they shouldn&#8217;t have had to instead of actively fighting the fire.</p>
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		By: will sturm		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[will sturm]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Jan 2025 21:36:49 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://writersontherange.org/los-angeles-is-a-wakeup-call-for-the-west-especially-durango/#comment-930&quot;&gt;Dennis Pierce&lt;/a&gt;.

You&#039;re the expert.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://writersontherange.org/los-angeles-is-a-wakeup-call-for-the-west-especially-durango/#comment-930">Dennis Pierce</a>.</p>
<p>You&#8217;re the expert.</p>
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		By: Dennis Pierce		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Dennis Pierce]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Jan 2025 18:56:28 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://writersontherange.org/los-angeles-is-a-wakeup-call-for-the-west-especially-durango/#comment-929&quot;&gt;David Marston&lt;/a&gt;.

You don&#039;t think that in an emergency that we wouldn&#039;t have access to water in Nighthorse? I live on the Anamas river and watched the 416 fire start just before noon.  I have seen first hand helicopters pull water from the river for the 416 fire as well as the Missionary Ridge fire. The real damage came from the mud flows across 550.  I lived in SoCal for almost 50 years and in Durango for over 30 years. I have never experienced anything like the Santa Ana winds since moving to SW Colorado.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://writersontherange.org/los-angeles-is-a-wakeup-call-for-the-west-especially-durango/#comment-929">David Marston</a>.</p>
<p>You don&#8217;t think that in an emergency that we wouldn&#8217;t have access to water in Nighthorse? I live on the Anamas river and watched the 416 fire start just before noon.  I have seen first hand helicopters pull water from the river for the 416 fire as well as the Missionary Ridge fire. The real damage came from the mud flows across 550.  I lived in SoCal for almost 50 years and in Durango for over 30 years. I have never experienced anything like the Santa Ana winds since moving to SW Colorado.</p>
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		By: David Marston		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[David Marston]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Jan 2025 17:59:18 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://writersontherange.org/los-angeles-is-a-wakeup-call-for-the-west-especially-durango/#comment-928&quot;&gt;Dennis Pierce&lt;/a&gt;.

Dennis, Hydrants ran dry in Los Angeles because of the multi-front fires. If you think that fire can&#039;t close in on the city in multiple locations is impossible, just look at the 416 Fire burn scars. Further, saying we have large bodies of water nearby is misleading. We don&#039;t have access to Nighthorse even though we own a good deal of water there. We have drawn water supplies down in several dry years to critical levels. Lemon was drawn down during those years as well. Ask the city council how close we were to water restrictions. Until the 36-inch pipeline project is underway, and I am told cost projections have doubled in the last two years, then we are not water secure.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://writersontherange.org/los-angeles-is-a-wakeup-call-for-the-west-especially-durango/#comment-928">Dennis Pierce</a>.</p>
<p>Dennis, Hydrants ran dry in Los Angeles because of the multi-front fires. If you think that fire can&#8217;t close in on the city in multiple locations is impossible, just look at the 416 Fire burn scars. Further, saying we have large bodies of water nearby is misleading. We don&#8217;t have access to Nighthorse even though we own a good deal of water there. We have drawn water supplies down in several dry years to critical levels. Lemon was drawn down during those years as well. Ask the city council how close we were to water restrictions. Until the 36-inch pipeline project is underway, and I am told cost projections have doubled in the last two years, then we are not water secure.</p>
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		By: Dennis Pierce		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Jan 2025 17:45:50 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I have to take issue with your comparison of Durango with the Los Angeles communities hit with devastating wild fires last week.  First off, unless you have experienced a Santa Ana wind first hand, you would know that there is no such weather like that it in Durango. Too, while LA lacks water storage due to incompetent leaders, we have several large bodies of water nearby plus the Anamas River.  Finally, high end housing in La Plata county is not concentrated in small geographical areas like Malibu.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have to take issue with your comparison of Durango with the Los Angeles communities hit with devastating wild fires last week.  First off, unless you have experienced a Santa Ana wind first hand, you would know that there is no such weather like that it in Durango. Too, while LA lacks water storage due to incompetent leaders, we have several large bodies of water nearby plus the Anamas River.  Finally, high end housing in La Plata county is not concentrated in small geographical areas like Malibu.</p>
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