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		By: Mose		</title>
		<link>https://writersontherange.org/bobcats-need-protection-not-killing-for-their-pelts/#comment-898</link>

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		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Nov 2024 00:52:31 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[We have them everywhere in Georgia, they&#039;re like feral cats and breed like rabbits.  I think it should remain legal and necessary in some states, they aren&#039;t even close to being threatened or endangered.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We have them everywhere in Georgia, they&#8217;re like feral cats and breed like rabbits.  I think it should remain legal and necessary in some states, they aren&#8217;t even close to being threatened or endangered.</p>
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		By: scott		</title>
		<link>https://writersontherange.org/bobcats-need-protection-not-killing-for-their-pelts/#comment-640</link>

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		<pubDate>Thu, 23 May 2024 01:09:41 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://writersontherange.org/bobcats-need-protection-not-killing-for-their-pelts/#comment-627&quot;&gt;Christine vercellino&lt;/a&gt;.

What the hunting community and most sensible Americans support is thoughtful and scientific approaches to dealing with issues and problems.  Unfortunately lumping Bobcat trapping with Mountain Lion hunting and Lynx hunting( which isn&#039;t allowed anyway) is two separate issues  that should be dealt with separately. To do otherwise just invites more beaurocracy.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://writersontherange.org/bobcats-need-protection-not-killing-for-their-pelts/#comment-627">Christine vercellino</a>.</p>
<p>What the hunting community and most sensible Americans support is thoughtful and scientific approaches to dealing with issues and problems.  Unfortunately lumping Bobcat trapping with Mountain Lion hunting and Lynx hunting( which isn&#8217;t allowed anyway) is two separate issues  that should be dealt with separately. To do otherwise just invites more beaurocracy.</p>
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		By: scott		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 23 May 2024 00:56:15 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Ted,  True enough that trapping may have little in common with hunting and utilizing the game for food.  I am not aware that there is much trapping of mountain lions. And Lynx are protected so no real issue there.  So why not support a ban on trapping of bobcats only?  Why can&#039;t that be a separate bill?  M hmm...because for the supporters of the bill it really isn&#039;t about trapping cats or hunting of lions.  It&#039;s about what others are doing that they don&#039;t like: Which is killing animals period.  I don&#039;t support that sort of thinking in the United States of America.  It&#039;s anti democratic.  Sounds kind of like trying to eliminate your religion because its blasphemous.  Have your read the Colorado Ballot Initiative?  The language was very carefully crafted as a segue into banning of killing all wildlife for food or otherwise. Its includes many &quot;trigger&quot; words like &quot;Trophy&quot; etc.  Why else would it include language not allowing hunting of cats or, like the previous one, of wolves (but once again, wink wink not elk or deer)  ever?  Ohh, except for paid professionals by the state when inevitably said populations overpopulate and become a real human problem.  Seems to me it would be better to allow controlled hunting, achieving sound biological management by professional trained it, a continued funding source for it, while supporting cultural and spiritual values, and rural economies among other things.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ted,  True enough that trapping may have little in common with hunting and utilizing the game for food.  I am not aware that there is much trapping of mountain lions. And Lynx are protected so no real issue there.  So why not support a ban on trapping of bobcats only?  Why can&#8217;t that be a separate bill?  M hmm&#8230;because for the supporters of the bill it really isn&#8217;t about trapping cats or hunting of lions.  It&#8217;s about what others are doing that they don&#8217;t like: Which is killing animals period.  I don&#8217;t support that sort of thinking in the United States of America.  It&#8217;s anti democratic.  Sounds kind of like trying to eliminate your religion because its blasphemous.  Have your read the Colorado Ballot Initiative?  The language was very carefully crafted as a segue into banning of killing all wildlife for food or otherwise. Its includes many &#8220;trigger&#8221; words like &#8220;Trophy&#8221; etc.  Why else would it include language not allowing hunting of cats or, like the previous one, of wolves (but once again, wink wink not elk or deer)  ever?  Ohh, except for paid professionals by the state when inevitably said populations overpopulate and become a real human problem.  Seems to me it would be better to allow controlled hunting, achieving sound biological management by professional trained it, a continued funding source for it, while supporting cultural and spiritual values, and rural economies among other things.</p>
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		By: Christine vercellino		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 10 May 2024 21:19:49 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Thank you so much Ted.  I am one of the people all over Colorado gathering signatures .  We are working so hard . We appreciate people like you from the hunting community who set forth a strong case why this cruelty , killing needs to stop.  Thank you so much]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you so much Ted.  I am one of the people all over Colorado gathering signatures .  We are working so hard . We appreciate people like you from the hunting community who set forth a strong case why this cruelty , killing needs to stop.  Thank you so much</p>
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		By: Tracey Spence		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 08 May 2024 18:53:20 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Thank you for this write-up. I will vote to ban hunting and trapping of bobcats, lynx and mountain lions in November 2024. I am now a new subscriber to Writers On The Range.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you for this write-up. I will vote to ban hunting and trapping of bobcats, lynx and mountain lions in November 2024. I am now a new subscriber to Writers On The Range.</p>
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		By: Jorgan Holtcamp		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 08 May 2024 03:21:25 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Absolute BS article strictly written with emotions and zero factual evidence or science. Bobcats are thriving in Colorado and don&#039;t mention that supporting this bill to &#039;save&#039; bobcats eliminates the already very strict but effective regulation of mountain lions completely and throws it into the hands of the taxpayers as government TRAPPERS will then continue to kill just as many lions. Let&#039;s not forget to mention the recent disaster of the wolves already killing livestock also forcing taxpayers to front that bill. This is a stupid, garbage article using a &#039;fisherman&#039; as a smoke screen to blind uneducated voters.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Absolute BS article strictly written with emotions and zero factual evidence or science. Bobcats are thriving in Colorado and don&#8217;t mention that supporting this bill to &#8216;save&#8217; bobcats eliminates the already very strict but effective regulation of mountain lions completely and throws it into the hands of the taxpayers as government TRAPPERS will then continue to kill just as many lions. Let&#8217;s not forget to mention the recent disaster of the wolves already killing livestock also forcing taxpayers to front that bill. This is a stupid, garbage article using a &#8216;fisherman&#8217; as a smoke screen to blind uneducated voters.</p>
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		By: Anne		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 07 May 2024 14:15:04 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Bobcats are finally, hooray, moving back into Iowa, the state that has less of its original landscape left than any other.  Their reward for returning is being caught in traps.  I&#039;m cheering for that Colorado initiative.  I wish we Iowans had a citizen initiative option here, because our statehouse is currently ruled by people whose concern for wildlife and all natural resources is minimal.  I&#039;m happy that some other states are doing better, and I really appreciate this good story.  Thanks, Ted Williams.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bobcats are finally, hooray, moving back into Iowa, the state that has less of its original landscape left than any other.  Their reward for returning is being caught in traps.  I&#8217;m cheering for that Colorado initiative.  I wish we Iowans had a citizen initiative option here, because our statehouse is currently ruled by people whose concern for wildlife and all natural resources is minimal.  I&#8217;m happy that some other states are doing better, and I really appreciate this good story.  Thanks, Ted Williams.</p>
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		By: Claire Perry		</title>
		<link>https://writersontherange.org/bobcats-need-protection-not-killing-for-their-pelts/#comment-623</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Claire Perry]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 May 2024 12:53:55 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://writersontherange.org/bobcats-need-protection-not-killing-for-their-pelts/#comment-621&quot;&gt;David Neils&lt;/a&gt;.

The benefit and enjoyment of &quot;the people&quot; regarding wildlife management, directly speaks to using *best science* as the primary management goal. 

The hunting/trapping community is approximately 11% of the population (&quot;the people&quot;). *Generally, close to 90% of today&#039;s population is non-consumptive regarding the wildlife. Predators and sound predator stewardship is vital to the ecological health  of nature&#039;s well-balanced, Chain of Life. Protecting and placing high priority on value of the predators should be Rule #1. 

But nothing will change until people start using their voices against the Hunting/Trapping Community MINORITY.  Change CAN happen.   It is very &quot;doable.&quot;  We only need to be organized and active. Common sense, general compassion, and best science are all on our side.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://writersontherange.org/bobcats-need-protection-not-killing-for-their-pelts/#comment-621">David Neils</a>.</p>
<p>The benefit and enjoyment of &#8220;the people&#8221; regarding wildlife management, directly speaks to using *best science* as the primary management goal. </p>
<p>The hunting/trapping community is approximately 11% of the population (&#8220;the people&#8221;). *Generally, close to 90% of today&#8217;s population is non-consumptive regarding the wildlife. Predators and sound predator stewardship is vital to the ecological health  of nature&#8217;s well-balanced, Chain of Life. Protecting and placing high priority on value of the predators should be Rule #1. </p>
<p>But nothing will change until people start using their voices against the Hunting/Trapping Community MINORITY.  Change CAN happen.   It is very &#8220;doable.&#8221;  We only need to be organized and active. Common sense, general compassion, and best science are all on our side.</p>
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		By: Claire Perry		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 07 May 2024 12:38:27 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In Maine, the bobcat is subjected to trapping, and up to six hound dogs can be &quot;set upon a bobcat&quot; in the name of &quot;hunting.&quot;  In Maine, a person doesn&#039;t have to get landowner permission to enter private property. All private land is considered OPEN to hunters...unless it is POSTED. Packs of &quot;hunting&quot; hound dogs are allowed to run at large ALL YEAR LONG in the pursuit of a coyote. 

Up to SIX big hound dogs...running amok in our fields and woods...all year round !  That means in the springtime...when all manner of wildlife are trying to raise their very vulnerable young; including the bobcat and her kittens. 

Why is there not an organization with a lawyer threatening legal action, unless better science-based wildlife management is instigated?   The wildlife belongs to ALL of us...not just the hunting and trapping community.  I would appreciate a response to this issue please.  I think it is time to get something started. Packs of SIX hound dogs, running at large over private land (unless posted) with no conceivable means of monitoring the damage done...is simply irresponsible, and an invitation for putting the public in grave and immanent danger of being attacked. There is already an example of this very thing happening to a couple and their dog in Ripton Vermont...walking a public trail; the Sigmans. Vermont&#039;s Wildlife Department has a record of their public testimony regarding this incident: A man, his wife and their dog were all attacked by a pack of &quot;hunting&quot; hound dogs. They all had to receive emergency medical care. They fought off the hound dogs for a half hour, before the owners of the dogs caught up with them. Meryl Sigman testified...&quot; If it hadn&#039;t been for the fact that we were carrying bear-spray, I truly believe we, and most certainly our dog, would have been killed.&quot;

Thank you for your article. I look forward to hearing from you.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In Maine, the bobcat is subjected to trapping, and up to six hound dogs can be &#8220;set upon a bobcat&#8221; in the name of &#8220;hunting.&#8221;  In Maine, a person doesn&#8217;t have to get landowner permission to enter private property. All private land is considered OPEN to hunters&#8230;unless it is POSTED. Packs of &#8220;hunting&#8221; hound dogs are allowed to run at large ALL YEAR LONG in the pursuit of a coyote. </p>
<p>Up to SIX big hound dogs&#8230;running amok in our fields and woods&#8230;all year round !  That means in the springtime&#8230;when all manner of wildlife are trying to raise their very vulnerable young; including the bobcat and her kittens. </p>
<p>Why is there not an organization with a lawyer threatening legal action, unless better science-based wildlife management is instigated?   The wildlife belongs to ALL of us&#8230;not just the hunting and trapping community.  I would appreciate a response to this issue please.  I think it is time to get something started. Packs of SIX hound dogs, running at large over private land (unless posted) with no conceivable means of monitoring the damage done&#8230;is simply irresponsible, and an invitation for putting the public in grave and immanent danger of being attacked. There is already an example of this very thing happening to a couple and their dog in Ripton Vermont&#8230;walking a public trail; the Sigmans. Vermont&#8217;s Wildlife Department has a record of their public testimony regarding this incident: A man, his wife and their dog were all attacked by a pack of &#8220;hunting&#8221; hound dogs. They all had to receive emergency medical care. They fought off the hound dogs for a half hour, before the owners of the dogs caught up with them. Meryl Sigman testified&#8230;&#8221; If it hadn&#8217;t been for the fact that we were carrying bear-spray, I truly believe we, and most certainly our dog, would have been killed.&#8221;</p>
<p>Thank you for your article. I look forward to hearing from you.</p>
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		By: David Neils		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 06 May 2024 21:09:03 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[As a wildlife conservationist, hunter and fisherman, the welfare of bobcats should be the primary focus of all bobcat management plans wherever bobcats are found. In fact, every wildlife species that falls under the management responsiblity of a state wildlife agency should benefit from the development and implementation of the wildlife management plan for that species. Rarely is this the case, especially for predators. 

This should be the litmus test for every wildlife species managed by our state wildlife agencies. The management plan must directly support the biological and ecological factors that a wildlife species is dependent on for a healthy population. This goes way beyond the wet finger in the air population estimates by our state agencies. Biological factors include kitten survival, age class stratification and other factors. 

In Colorado, wildlife are managed for the benefit of the visitors and citizens of Colorado. They are not managed to support the welfare of the species. Colorado Parks and Wildlife Commission Policy states: 

“It is the policy of the state of Colorado that the wildlife and their environment are to be protected, preserved, enhanced, and managed for the use, benefit, and enjoyment of the people of this state and its visitors.&quot;

The welfare of wildlife is not the focus of wildlife management by Colorado Parks and Wildlife.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a wildlife conservationist, hunter and fisherman, the welfare of bobcats should be the primary focus of all bobcat management plans wherever bobcats are found. In fact, every wildlife species that falls under the management responsiblity of a state wildlife agency should benefit from the development and implementation of the wildlife management plan for that species. Rarely is this the case, especially for predators. </p>
<p>This should be the litmus test for every wildlife species managed by our state wildlife agencies. The management plan must directly support the biological and ecological factors that a wildlife species is dependent on for a healthy population. This goes way beyond the wet finger in the air population estimates by our state agencies. Biological factors include kitten survival, age class stratification and other factors. </p>
<p>In Colorado, wildlife are managed for the benefit of the visitors and citizens of Colorado. They are not managed to support the welfare of the species. Colorado Parks and Wildlife Commission Policy states: </p>
<p>“It is the policy of the state of Colorado that the wildlife and their environment are to be protected, preserved, enhanced, and managed for the use, benefit, and enjoyment of the people of this state and its visitors.&#8221;</p>
<p>The welfare of wildlife is not the focus of wildlife management by Colorado Parks and Wildlife.</p>
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