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		By: One Of The Beaver&#039;s Greatest Champions To Give Talk In Bozeman - Yellowstonian		</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[[&#8230;] Back to beavers. Ted Williams recently wrote a piece for&#160;Writers on the Range&#160;saying that beaver reintroduction isn&#8217;t appropriate for every place. In the West, where [&#8230;]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] Back to beavers. Ted Williams recently wrote a piece for&nbsp;Writers on the Range&nbsp;saying that beaver reintroduction isn&#8217;t appropriate for every place. In the West, where [&#8230;]</p>
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		By: Ted Williams		</title>
		<link>https://writersontherange.org/are-beavers-always-the-answer-not-really/#comment-434</link>

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		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Oct 2023 16:26:18 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://writersontherange.org/are-beavers-always-the-answer-not-really/#comment-432&quot;&gt;Liz vD&lt;/a&gt;.

&lt;span&gt;PS: Not room here for all transcripts from my notes. But here are some of the more pertinent ones:&lt;/span&gt;
&lt;span&gt;Wisconsin DNR fisheries biologist Scott Braden&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span&gt;: “Beaver Creek and Buckhorn Springs were really beaten up by beavers. There was some brook trout reproduction in the headwaters. But they couldn’t get downstream; they were basically gone. All that was left were dark, sedimented backwater sloughs full of lily pads. It was just terrible. We were walking through chest-deep muck. It really gave you an idea of how much damage overpopulated beavers do. After Wildlife Services trapped beavers and removed dams, that cold water started rushing downstream and scoured out all that muck and debris, making lots of habitat. Within two years, there were just thousands of brook trout throughout the system.”&lt;/span&gt;

&lt;span&gt;Minnesota fisheries biologist Jeff Tillma: “Forest management here is geared toward aspen, and the rotation is about forty years. That means there are lots of young aspen on the landscape, and that creates prime beaver habitat. Also there’s a lack of shade and large woody input in the streams. Wood isn’t allowed to get old. The trees beavers cut down are so small, they don’t stay put. We’d like better coordination between forestry and fisheries for longer-lived, uneven-aged management. Our beaver management is small scale because of the expense. We do only a handful of streams in each area, and we do them annually. If we stop for any length of time, beavers return. We’ve seen very encouraging results—more and larger brook trout.&lt;/span&gt;”
&lt;span&gt; &lt;/span&gt;
&lt;span&gt;Kim Toulouse, the Nevada Department of Wildlife’s former conservation educator: “The Truckee River, where they’re trying to recover Lahontan cutthroat trout, is overrun with beavers -- bank dwellers because the mainstem is too big for dams. On a number of reaches, beavers have decimated the entire cottonwood population on both banks. That has removed shade and insect populations, primarily terrestrials. Replacing the cottonwoods have been mainly [nonnative] invasives like tall whitetop. It’s very difficult to treat. It takes over everything, and it releases a toxin that prevents the spread of natives.”&lt;/span&gt;
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://writersontherange.org/are-beavers-always-the-answer-not-really/#comment-432">Liz vD</a>.</p>
<p><span>PS: Not room here for all transcripts from my notes. But here are some of the more pertinent ones:</span><br />
<span>Wisconsin DNR fisheries biologist Scott Braden</span><span>: “Beaver Creek and Buckhorn Springs were really beaten up by beavers. There was some brook trout reproduction in the headwaters. But they couldn’t get downstream; they were basically gone. All that was left were dark, sedimented backwater sloughs full of lily pads. It was just terrible. We were walking through chest-deep muck. It really gave you an idea of how much damage overpopulated beavers do. After Wildlife Services trapped beavers and removed dams, that cold water started rushing downstream and scoured out all that muck and debris, making lots of habitat. Within two years, there were just thousands of brook trout throughout the system.”</span></p>
<p><span>Minnesota fisheries biologist Jeff Tillma: “Forest management here is geared toward aspen, and the rotation is about forty years. That means there are lots of young aspen on the landscape, and that creates prime beaver habitat. Also there’s a lack of shade and large woody input in the streams. Wood isn’t allowed to get old. The trees beavers cut down are so small, they don’t stay put. We’d like better coordination between forestry and fisheries for longer-lived, uneven-aged management. Our beaver management is small scale because of the expense. We do only a handful of streams in each area, and we do them annually. If we stop for any length of time, beavers return. We’ve seen very encouraging results—more and larger brook trout.</span>”<br />
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<span>Kim Toulouse, the Nevada Department of Wildlife’s former conservation educator: “The Truckee River, where they’re trying to recover Lahontan cutthroat trout, is overrun with beavers &#8212; bank dwellers because the mainstem is too big for dams. On a number of reaches, beavers have decimated the entire cottonwood population on both banks. That has removed shade and insect populations, primarily terrestrials. Replacing the cottonwoods have been mainly [nonnative] invasives like tall whitetop. It’s very difficult to treat. It takes over everything, and it releases a toxin that prevents the spread of natives.”</span><br />
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		By: Ted Williams		</title>
		<link>https://writersontherange.org/are-beavers-always-the-answer-not-really/#comment-433</link>

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		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Oct 2023 15:25:39 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://writersontherange.org/are-beavers-always-the-answer-not-really/#comment-432&quot;&gt;Liz vD&lt;/a&gt;.

I mentioned two in the piece -- Bill Somer and Kim Toulouse. 

Also: Marc Bacigalupi, Brainerd Area, MN 

Jeff Tillma, fisheries biologist, MN DNR 

Jason Suckow, Minnesota and Wisconsin Wildlife Services State Director 

William J. Paul, Minnesota Wildlife Services 
Deserae Hendrickson, &lt;span&gt;MN DNR Duluth Area Fisheries Supervisor&lt;/span&gt;

Todd Richards, assistant director of fisheries, Mass. Division of Fisheries and Wildlife 

Max Wolter, DNR fisheries biologist, Hayward, Wis 

Jen Johnson, fisheries biologist, Michigan DNR

Bill Bakke, Native Fish Society 

Kurt Beardslee, director, Wild Fish Conservancy

Deserae Hendrickson
&lt;span&gt;MN DNR Duluth Area Fisheries Supervisor&lt;/span&gt;

Dr. David Wattles, MA]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://writersontherange.org/are-beavers-always-the-answer-not-really/#comment-432">Liz vD</a>.</p>
<p>I mentioned two in the piece &#8212; Bill Somer and Kim Toulouse. </p>
<p>Also: Marc Bacigalupi, Brainerd Area, MN </p>
<p>Jeff Tillma, fisheries biologist, MN DNR </p>
<p>Jason Suckow, Minnesota and Wisconsin Wildlife Services State Director </p>
<p>William J. Paul, Minnesota Wildlife Services<br />
Deserae Hendrickson, <span>MN DNR Duluth Area Fisheries Supervisor</span></p>
<p>Todd Richards, assistant director of fisheries, Mass. Division of Fisheries and Wildlife </p>
<p>Max Wolter, DNR fisheries biologist, Hayward, Wis </p>
<p>Jen Johnson, fisheries biologist, Michigan DNR</p>
<p>Bill Bakke, Native Fish Society </p>
<p>Kurt Beardslee, director, Wild Fish Conservancy</p>
<p>Deserae Hendrickson<br />
<span>MN DNR Duluth Area Fisheries Supervisor</span></p>
<p>Dr. David Wattles, MA</p>
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		By: Liz vD		</title>
		<link>https://writersontherange.org/are-beavers-always-the-answer-not-really/#comment-432</link>

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		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Oct 2023 00:31:41 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Hi Ted, can you please provide the sources you relied on for some of the claims you make in this article? In particular, I&#039;m curious about what research you referenced for the following: &quot; beavers grossly overpopulate, blocking trout migration, stripping streamside cover, choking spawning gravel with silt and muck, and converting oxygen-rich streams to dead water&quot;. Thanks in advance!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Ted, can you please provide the sources you relied on for some of the claims you make in this article? In particular, I&#8217;m curious about what research you referenced for the following: &#8221; beavers grossly overpopulate, blocking trout migration, stripping streamside cover, choking spawning gravel with silt and muck, and converting oxygen-rich streams to dead water&#8221;. Thanks in advance!</p>
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		By: Ted Williams		</title>
		<link>https://writersontherange.org/are-beavers-always-the-answer-not-really/#comment-429</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ted Williams]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Oct 2023 23:13:37 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://writersontherange.org/are-beavers-always-the-answer-not-really/#comment-428&quot;&gt;Terry Moores&lt;/a&gt;.

Humans have proven their inability to “control beavers,” as you would have learned had you paid attention to my piece. I didn’t make up the facts I reported. Check them out yourself. That’s easily done. Not sure what point you are making with the pet-dog attacks. As for wolves, worry not. They don’t attack humans. The fact that you haven’t seen places in your Colorado mountain valley “overrun by deer” doesn’t gainsay the fact that the East is overrun by deer. My son, Dr. Scott Williams, is a deer biologist in Connecticut. A 10-year study by the U.S. Forest Service reveals that, at more than 20 deer per square mile, there’s complete loss of cerulean warblers, yellow-billed cuckoos, indigo buntings, eastern wood pewees, and least flycatchers. At 38 deer per square mile, eastern phoebes and even robins disappear. On my son’s research areas he’s had as many as 100 deer per square mile. If you would like to learn about deer overpopulation in the East, I direct you to my piece in Estuary Magazine at: https://www.estuarymagazine.com/2023/09/the-most-dangerous-animal-in-america/]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://writersontherange.org/are-beavers-always-the-answer-not-really/#comment-428">Terry Moores</a>.</p>
<p>Humans have proven their inability to “control beavers,” as you would have learned had you paid attention to my piece. I didn’t make up the facts I reported. Check them out yourself. That’s easily done. Not sure what point you are making with the pet-dog attacks. As for wolves, worry not. They don’t attack humans. The fact that you haven’t seen places in your Colorado mountain valley “overrun by deer” doesn’t gainsay the fact that the East is overrun by deer. My son, Dr. Scott Williams, is a deer biologist in Connecticut. A 10-year study by the U.S. Forest Service reveals that, at more than 20 deer per square mile, there’s complete loss of cerulean warblers, yellow-billed cuckoos, indigo buntings, eastern wood pewees, and least flycatchers. At 38 deer per square mile, eastern phoebes and even robins disappear. On my son’s research areas he’s had as many as 100 deer per square mile. If you would like to learn about deer overpopulation in the East, I direct you to my piece in Estuary Magazine at: <a href="https://www.estuarymagazine.com/2023/09/the-most-dangerous-animal-in-america/" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.estuarymagazine.com/2023/09/the-most-dangerous-animal-in-america/</a></p>
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		By: Terry Moores		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Oct 2023 18:43:34 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I will start out by saying I dont like the reintroduction of wolves into the ecosystem here in SW Colorado, or anywhere I would like to go on a hike. As far as beavers go I see that as a weak excuse. Us humans can control the beavers a lot more efficiently than wolves and do it humanely to relocate them where they will do some good.
I have been attacked by pet dogs running in a pack even though some of them were known to me through friends and were nothing but friendly one on one. They had to be reverting to their primitive instincts which wolves still possess. I run into bears frequently while hiking in the La Platas and the San Juans and they make me nervous enough. I am 74 and could easily be seen by a pack of wolves as something vulnerable and easily brought down due to the hitch in my get along.
And as for deer, I live in a mountain valley and get around the surrounding mountains quite a bit. I havent seen any place that comes close to being overrun with deer.
I dont want to have to carry a gun or hike in a crowd for protection either.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I will start out by saying I dont like the reintroduction of wolves into the ecosystem here in SW Colorado, or anywhere I would like to go on a hike. As far as beavers go I see that as a weak excuse. Us humans can control the beavers a lot more efficiently than wolves and do it humanely to relocate them where they will do some good.<br />
I have been attacked by pet dogs running in a pack even though some of them were known to me through friends and were nothing but friendly one on one. They had to be reverting to their primitive instincts which wolves still possess. I run into bears frequently while hiking in the La Platas and the San Juans and they make me nervous enough. I am 74 and could easily be seen by a pack of wolves as something vulnerable and easily brought down due to the hitch in my get along.<br />
And as for deer, I live in a mountain valley and get around the surrounding mountains quite a bit. I havent seen any place that comes close to being overrun with deer.<br />
I dont want to have to carry a gun or hike in a crowd for protection either.</p>
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		By: Cass Martinez		</title>
		<link>https://writersontherange.org/are-beavers-always-the-answer-not-really/#comment-426</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Cass Martinez]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Oct 2023 04:05:16 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m in the middle of reading Beaverland... currently enjoying chapter 9 (effects on land and water) and looking forward to chapter 13 (co-evolution with fish).]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m in the middle of reading Beaverland&#8230; currently enjoying chapter 9 (effects on land and water) and looking forward to chapter 13 (co-evolution with fish).</p>
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		By: Anne		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Oct 2023 20:51:14 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Good column.  Arrrrrgh, why are the Humane Society and its buddy groups in charge of wildlife policies in some states?  How ridiculous!  Some problems like climate change are complicated and horribly hard to solve, and that  makes it even more frustrating when problems that could be much more easily solved, like deer and beaver overpopulation, are not solved because of human ignorance and bad politics.  My own rural state is under the giant thumb of the Farm Bureau, and that is very hard to change.  But couldn&#039;t the political yoke of the Humane Society be more easily thrown off?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good column.  Arrrrrgh, why are the Humane Society and its buddy groups in charge of wildlife policies in some states?  How ridiculous!  Some problems like climate change are complicated and horribly hard to solve, and that  makes it even more frustrating when problems that could be much more easily solved, like deer and beaver overpopulation, are not solved because of human ignorance and bad politics.  My own rural state is under the giant thumb of the Farm Bureau, and that is very hard to change.  But couldn&#8217;t the political yoke of the Humane Society be more easily thrown off?</p>
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		By: Warren Winders		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Warren Winders]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Oct 2023 02:36:45 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Thanks Ted for bringing some ecological reality to the table. Beavers, like deer, play a role. That role becomes distorted in the absence of a fully function ecosystem... one that has the predators to keep numbers in check.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Ted for bringing some ecological reality to the table. Beavers, like deer, play a role. That role becomes distorted in the absence of a fully function ecosystem&#8230; one that has the predators to keep numbers in check.</p>
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		By: Kay Charter		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Kay Charter]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Oct 2023 21:41:12 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I think it’s getting better in my area in Northern Michigan:  The wildlife biologists 
here are well educated on the issues around 
true conservation.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think it’s getting better in my area in Northern Michigan:  The wildlife biologists<br />
here are well educated on the issues around<br />
true conservation.</p>
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